Comments on: Jokela High School Massacre, Tuusula, Finland http://society.oshana.org/jokela-high-school-massacre-tuusula-finland/ Waking Up To The End of Human Programming Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:08:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Fyodor http://society.oshana.org/jokela-high-school-massacre-tuusula-finland/#comment-360 Fyodor Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:08:27 +0000 http://blog.oshana.org/jokela-high-school-massacre-tuusula-finland/#comment-360 Hi Dave, I heard about the shooting on the radio just the day before the Oshana weekend retreat in a hotel where I was staying. I did not believe it to begin with but then it felt strange and sad. Most shocking is that it happened in Finland… The fact that it happened again means that we are ignoring or don’t know how to deal with a lot of serious issues in our societies, in our families, in our internal worlds. How many tragedies do we need until we start asking serious questions, find solutions and start taking actions? For how long are we going to expect governments, scientists, specialist etc. to give us causes and solutions on silver plates? It is time to ask serious questions and get actively involved in all aspects of our lives for all of us. It is very easy to pass the buck. It is time to grow up and take responsibility. We have to do it. Love FM Hi Dave,

I heard about the shooting on the radio just the day before the Oshana weekend retreat in a hotel where I was staying.

I did not believe it to begin with but then it felt strange and sad. Most shocking is that it happened in Finland…

The fact that it happened again means that we are ignoring or don’t know how to deal with a lot of serious issues in our societies, in our families, in our internal worlds. How many tragedies do we need until we start asking serious questions, find solutions and start taking actions?

For how long are we going to expect governments, scientists, specialist etc. to give us causes and solutions on silver plates?

It is time to ask serious questions and get actively involved in all aspects of our lives for all of us. It is very easy to pass the buck. It is time to grow up and take responsibility. We have to do it.

Love

FM

]]> By: laranarayani http://society.oshana.org/jokela-high-school-massacre-tuusula-finland/#comment-351 laranarayani Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:22:28 +0000 http://blog.oshana.org/jokela-high-school-massacre-tuusula-finland/#comment-351 This is really sad. The youth need somewhere to direct all the energy they are feeling at this time on Earth. This is a good reminder to focus more on being present for the youth. Thanks Dave for giving this issue the light it needs for change...and for the determination.. This is really sad. The youth need somewhere to direct all the energy they are feeling at this time on Earth. This is a good reminder to focus more on being present for the youth. Thanks Dave for giving this issue the light it needs for change…and for the determination..

]]> By: Arto http://society.oshana.org/jokela-high-school-massacre-tuusula-finland/#comment-340 Arto Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:05:24 +0000 http://blog.oshana.org/jokela-high-school-massacre-tuusula-finland/#comment-340 <p>Hi Dave!</p> <p>It is horrifying to see that something so terrible can happen here in Tuusula, in a village where we have been living for more than 15 years. This is not even a town, just a countryside village.</p> <p>I fully agree with what you just wrote and can see the damaging influence of internet and computer cames in our neighborhood too, and the problem of parents not having enough time for their kids. It is so very sad.</p> <p>Our family was not attacked directly today by this massacre, but I'm sure it will have a deep influence to our kids life (our son is 18 years old like the shooter was). Kids have to go through a lot of purification to get their minds back to peaceful and trusting state.</p> <p>As a father of two lovely kids it is so horrible to see how things can go so wrong with teenagers as has gone today.</p> <p>There is violence built in Finnish society, like in the Army.</p> <p> I feel it is high time for Finland to stop compulsory army recruits where the army forces young men (18 years old) to join the killing training. Many kids are horrified to go to army but they must or they will be sentenced to prison for longer period of time as they would spend in the army training.</p> <p> I hope that Finnish government and the European union will make a stop to such violence to young men in Finland.<br /> Finnish army anyway is so small that any country who wants to destroy it can do it easily as there are only 5million inhabitants in Finland all together including babies.</p> <p> By disarmament of the army we Finns could also show the whole world that we are for the peace and not for killing. This could be a step towards more peaceful world.</p> <p> I do hope that what happened today in Tuusula will open the eyes of the political decision makers and they take an active step towards non violence by any peaceful means possible.</p> <p>love<br /> arto</p> Hi Dave!

It is horrifying to see that something so terrible can happen here in Tuusula, in a village where we have been living for more than 15 years. This is not even a town, just a countryside village.

I fully agree with what you just wrote and can see the damaging influence of internet and computer cames in our neighborhood too, and the problem of parents not having enough time for their kids. It is so very sad.

Our family was not attacked directly today by this massacre, but I’m sure it will have a deep influence to our kids life (our son is 18 years old like the shooter was). Kids have to go through a lot of purification to get their minds back to peaceful and trusting state.

As a father of two lovely kids it is so horrible to see how things can go so wrong with teenagers as has gone today.

There is violence built in Finnish society, like in the Army.

I feel it is high time for Finland to stop compulsory army recruits where the army forces young men (18 years old) to join the killing training. Many kids are horrified to go to army but they must or they will be sentenced to prison for longer period of time as they would spend in the army training.

I hope that Finnish government and the European union will make a stop to such violence to young men in Finland.
Finnish army anyway is so small that any country who wants to destroy it can do it easily as there are only 5million inhabitants in Finland all together including babies.

By disarmament of the army we Finns could also show the whole world that we are for the peace and not for killing. This could be a step towards more peaceful world.

I do hope that what happened today in Tuusula will open the eyes of the political decision makers and they take an active step towards non violence by any peaceful means possible.

love
arto

]]> By: Minneapolis Mike http://society.oshana.org/jokela-high-school-massacre-tuusula-finland/#comment-339 Minneapolis Mike Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:00:24 +0000 http://blog.oshana.org/jokela-high-school-massacre-tuusula-finland/#comment-339 Hi Dave, I'm so sorry to hear about the horrible tragedy in Finland - the last place I would ever expect for this type of thing to happen. The sages often say, "all is well, all is well, all is in its right place, etc." How does one reconcile that with what just happened at the Finnish High School, the Iraq War, torture, etc.? Love, Mike Hi Dave,

I’m so sorry to hear about the horrible tragedy in Finland - the last place I would ever expect for this type of thing to happen. The sages often say, “all is well, all is well, all is in its right place, etc.” How does one reconcile that with what just happened at the Finnish High School, the Iraq War, torture, etc.?

Love, Mike

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